...and now that the real facts are not fitting your narrative, you're starting to contradict and deny those facts using every emotional response and every fallacy you can think of.

What are those "real facts"? The Verizon Business court order alone is damaging enough.

What I don't understand, especially with the constant barrage of posts on HN about this topic ... Were you all really unaware the NSA did things like this or PRISM? I mean really? You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to be this naive. I find the shock and indignation over this news a little over the top. I'm not defending it or anything and I'm not saying it is not an important issue ... but really you never knew or suspected this before? I find it hard to believe any intelligent person would not be surprised to find out the NSA was NOT "spying" on citizens.

What do you mean "without their knowledge"? You didn't know?

Knowing that the NSA "watches a bunch of people" is a far sight different from knowing the NSA is watching you personally.

Eh, I guess you guys are just more optimistic than I. I've pretty much assumed for years that anything I type or say is recorded. NSA, black hat, script kiddie, whatever.