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I actually found the author's comparison to a poisson distribution with a mean of 2 a bit disturbing.

Why should americans expect an average of 2 mass shootings a year? What the heck is wrong with that country that you can expect TWO mass murderings a year?

If you compare the statistics to a poisson distribution with a mean of say, 0 (you know, like most countries, you don't expect ANY mass shootings in a year AT ALL), then you cannot claim randomness any more.

The premise is what bugged me the most - that a mean of 2 is acceptable



You seem to be confused. There's no claim that a mean of 2 is acceptable or anything like that. The fact is that in the last 31 years, we've had 62 mass shootings, and that comes out to an average of 2 per year. You don't get to compare to a Poisson distribution with a mean of zero because you have to use the actual mean, which is 2.

This analysis has nothing to do with whether or not there are too many shootings. It's about whether the shootings occur at a fixed rate, and are independent of each other.


You have it correct in your last sentence although your previous sentence had it quite wrong.

You are correct that the analysis is about whether the shootings occur at a fixed rate. The author had set the expected value of 2 at a given time period, which is to say the author assumes that the 'natural rate' of a mass shooting murder is 2 a year.

The mean across the years has got nothing to do with this IMO. It may have been a good rule of thumb to compare against, but it's not a good one to do an analysis upon. It leads to all sorts of mistaken conclusions, like the one the author made.


You're all partialy wrong. The author wants to test if there is an incrase of mass murders, so he wants to test if the large number of mass murders that occured in 2012 is likely to be due by chance or not. he wants to know if 2012 is an exceptional year or not regarding the average. We dont care what the average is, we want to know if this observed number of mass murder is not likely to be observed regarding the average. His pvalue is small but not small enough to conclude that the distribution of observed mass murders does not fit the model.


No, there's no assumption of "natural rate" or anything like that. The ordinary way of estimating the mean parameter for a Poisson distribution is by taking average value over the sample period (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution#Maximum_li...).

>The mean across the years has got nothing to do with this IMO.

Well, that's all well and good, but your opinion is irrelevant. This is simply how this statistical tool is used. And crucially, the data fits this model, so objecting to its completely standard parameters is very silly.


take a step back and consider: size of population and history.

Norway has had 0 mass murders since ww2. Yet 18 months ago Norway faced one of the worst mass murdrs in peacetime. Maybe the percentage of people wanting to do such stupid things are the same in Norway as in US, only the population is so small it takes years between everytime there is someone with high enough iq to plan this kind of cruelty and low enough respect of life to actually do it.

Also take a look at Japan. Few shootings but at least during the nineties a couple of attempted mass murders using poisenous gas.


Insanity is distributed fairly evenly across mankind. Access to weapons is not.


weapons are pretty well distributed too. Witness pipe bombs, IEDs, and suicide bombers in very poor / resource poor areas.


An awful lot of those weapons are provided to those places by outside interests for proxy wars and similar circumstances, at east for more advanced types of weapons. Yes, you can improvise killing tools from a great many things, but the more effective methods tend to be at least somewhat advanced.


Except those areas are also fairly well armed with guns. It just turns out IEDs and suicide bombers are more effective in kill rate than guns in certain situations.


It's worth noting that the population of Norway is tiny, around 5 million, while the USA has ~310m. At 2 shootings a year for 310m Americans, that suggests something like 1 shooting per 155m; 155m is 31x Norway's 5m, suggesting 1 shooting every >30 years.

Assume a lower base rate, and you make just 1 mass murder in the 67 years since WWII a fairly plausible outcome. I'd note that before Breivik, the previous record-setting mass murder was a South Korean policeman, also a small country not known for violence or crime.


Organised terrorism is very different to a lone gunman.

Aum Shinrikyo were a remarkable terrorist cult who achieved pretty scarry things. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo)




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