Yes, you did. You used the word “characterizing” in reference to someone correctly using the word “propaganda” in the sense that it’s defined in the dictionary. You agreed that it’s propaganda insofar as when someone is using the word correctly, but you disagree because… “the left”… exists??
> they've always been engaged in what you're characterizing as propaganda
It seems like you’re arguing that “propaganda” isn’t so much a word that has a meaning that people agree on but rather a vibe that you, forums poster timr, are the arbiter of.
Like it’s pretty simple to look up a word and see that “The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause” applies in a way so plainly obvious that it would take extreme pains to craft an argument otherwise in good faith. Hence the unprompted change of topic to the opinions that you imagine in your head that other people have and “the left”.
Trying to change the topic of discussion with whataboutisms about “the left” won’t change what the word means, even if a person feels really, really strongly that it should or would.
That aside,
> No, "we" are not doing that.
Yes “we” are. Similar to how propaganda is a word that has a meaning, this is actually the thread about Jeff Bezos/WaPo and not a fanfic thread about me, no matter how badly an individual might want that to be otherwise. If you want to start a “What sort of stuff does everybody imagine jrflowers thinks or has opinions about?” discussion, the place to do that is at this link https://news.ycombinator.com/submit
Yes, you did. You used the word “characterizing” in reference to someone correctly using the word “propaganda” in the sense that it’s defined in the dictionary. You agreed that it’s propaganda insofar as when someone is using the word correctly, but you disagree because… “the left”… exists??
> they've always been engaged in what you're characterizing as propaganda
It seems like you’re arguing that “propaganda” isn’t so much a word that has a meaning that people agree on but rather a vibe that you, forums poster timr, are the arbiter of.
Like it’s pretty simple to look up a word and see that “The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause” applies in a way so plainly obvious that it would take extreme pains to craft an argument otherwise in good faith. Hence the unprompted change of topic to the opinions that you imagine in your head that other people have and “the left”.
Trying to change the topic of discussion with whataboutisms about “the left” won’t change what the word means, even if a person feels really, really strongly that it should or would.
That aside,
> No, "we" are not doing that.
Yes “we” are. Similar to how propaganda is a word that has a meaning, this is actually the thread about Jeff Bezos/WaPo and not a fanfic thread about me, no matter how badly an individual might want that to be otherwise. If you want to start a “What sort of stuff does everybody imagine jrflowers thinks or has opinions about?” discussion, the place to do that is at this link https://news.ycombinator.com/submit