All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. Those are things with 10,000 examples all over the web. AI is good at distilling the known solutions. But anything even slightly out of the ordinary, it fails miserably. I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me.

There is absolutely no way. Those tasks take 5 mins to do. Itd be done by the time you read the documentation for elvenlabs

You might be comparing people who know how to do something vs those who don't.

> All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI.

There isn't a single person on this planet (detractor or not) that would believe this statement.

If you're argument rests on an insane amount of hyperbole (that immediately comes off as just lying), then maybe it's not a great argument.

> I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me.

You're not suggesting that asking CC to build the UI for a route planner takes me an hour to type, are you?

>Wire up authentication system with sso.

Simple npm install, all of it has already been distilled into dozens of similar repos. Just pick one, install it, and follow the simple use case. 5 minutes if we're in a race.

>done Setup websockets

If this takes you more than 5 minutes, then you're a shit developer.

>stream audio from mic

Again, another npm install or two, simple POC could take 5 minutes.

>transcribe with elvenlabs

I don't know what elvenlabs is, nor do I care, but I doubt it's as complex as the OP thinks it is considering the rest of their comment was about simple, solved problems.

> There isn't a single person on this planet (detractor or not) that would believe this statement.

It's so galling to see people say shit like this. It's like the old build slack in a weekend trope.

Im curious though, what do you consider slightly out of the ordinary that it fails to do?

Haven't tried Claude for this, but I can't think how it could possibly do. I built a game bot using Win32 API to send input and screen capture to OCR and some OpenCV to recognize game elements. Dead simple and actually quite boring and repeatitive after I worked on it for a while. How could Claude agents possibly do this ? I did use Claude to refer docs and API, though.

That actually sounds like something Claude could do pretty easily.

Yegge's book describes his coauthor's first vibe coding project. It went through screenshots he'd saved of youtube videos, read the time with OCR, looked up transcripts, and generated video snippets with subtitles added. (I think this was before youtube added subtitles itself.) He had it done in 45 minutes.

And using agents to control other applications is pretty common.

My elementary schooler did this with pictures of his stuffed animals last week. I helped a little bit, but most of it was Claude. He's never coded before.

Great, and you've taught him to never learn to code. That's not as great an achievment as you might think it is.

Yes, I've doomed him all because of a 30 minute interaction. Just like when he watched Kerbal Space Program videos on YouTube he lost all motivation to get to the moon himself. Oh wait.

And he definitely doesn't make up missions using the mission builder using if / then loops. He'll never learn to code. Oh the humanity.

I'd rather have my kid typing on a real keyboard into Claude, asking questions about what Python, and modifying the Claude-generated code than watching random videos and playing Roblox on his iPad.

Back when, we'd just go write a blog post or SO answer so the next person wouldn't suffer as much.

Thank god THOSE days are over and everyone just lets everyone else suffer alone now

And when those resources dry up for newer stuff, and LLMs start training on LLM output, they'll start degrading

Yes, because search engines are populated with SEO-optimized LLM-filled articles that say nothing of value anymore. The only reason AI-assisted tools are "better" is because Web search is so much worse.

It's like everyone forgot that the first result for anything web-related would be W3schools, and the next 5 would be spam message boards that tries to scrape all the other boards and sends you to a porn site when you click on it.

Yeah it is worse now but I don’t remember it ever being good. If you know where to look and have a trusted set of resources curated sure, but of course you won’t for unfamiliar territory which is exactly what LLMs help with.