For me the biggest signifier is Spotify. They claim their (best) devs don't even code anymore, they use an internal AI tool that they just send prompts to which then checks out a personal test build that they can download off of Slack. "A new feature in 10 minutes!"
Okay, if that is the case, why have we only seen like 3-4 minor new QoL improvements in Spotify the last ~12 months, with no new grand features? And why haven't they fired 95% of their devs and let the remaining elite go buckwild with Claude?
Everyone here says "if developers are so much faster, why aren't we seeing more features?!" as if the only thing required to release a feature is developers.
My CEO keeps asking me "how can we go faster with AI", and my answer is "we can't, because even if we had developers that would instantly develop any feature perfectly, we'd still be bottlenecked on how slow we are at deciding what to actually release".
tbf they have been saying they've started doing this since December, so we're only a few months in. And like most software it's an iceberg: 99% of work on not observable by users, and in spotify's case listeners are only one of presumably dozens of different users. For all we know they are shipping massive improvements to eg billing
Because believe it or not, majority of users couldn't care less whether it is native or not. I don’t even see Spotify, it’s just something that lives in the background and plays music.
Strange subthread. I don't see Claude Opus 4.6 changing the tide for PyPy. There is no need to understate AI capabilities for this.
"Anthropic released vibe coded C compiler that doesn't work" sounds like https://github.com/anthropics/claudes-c-compiler/issues/1 passed through a game of telephone. The compiler has some wrong defaults that prevent it from straightforwardly building a "Hello, world!" like GCC and Clang. The compiler works:
> The 100,000-line compiler can build a bootable Linux 6.9 on x86, ARM, and RISC-V. It can also compile QEMU, FFmpeg, SQlite, postgres, redis, and has a 99% pass rate on most compiler test suites including the GCC torture test suite. It also passes the developer's ultimate litmus test: it can compile and run Doom.
This two week project did not displace GCC, one of the most complex pieces of machinery built by man, so the conclusion on hacker news is that AI is fake.
What you’re seeing is a shibboleth. If you can make the above claim without choking, then you’re a member of the tribe. If it seems so outlandish that honor and sense demand you point out the problems, you’re marked as an enemy.
The primary objective is to retarget PyPy on top of the Python main branch. A minor objective is to document what of PyPy can be ported to CPython (or RustPython).
Keep a markdown log of issues in order to cluster and close when fixed
Clone PyPy and CPython.
Review the PyPy codebase and docs.
Prepare a devcontainer.json for PyPy to more safely contain coding LLMs and simplify development
Review the backlog of PyPy issues.
Review the CPython whatsnew docs for each version of python (since and including 3.11).
What has changed in CPython since 3.11 which affects PyPy?
Study the differences between PyPy code and CPython code to understand how to optimize like PyPy.
Prepare an AGENTS.md for PyPy.
Prepare an agent skill for upgrading PyPy with these and other methods.
Write tests to verify that everything in PyPy works after updating it to be compatible with the Python main branch (or the latest stable release, CPython 3.14)
> Anthropic released vibe coded C compiler that doesn't work, how their LLM can help in maintaining PyPy?
This is the perfect question to highlight the major players. In my opinion, a rapidly developing language with a clear reference implementation, readily accessible specifications, and a vast number of easily runnable tests would make an ideal benchmark.
Both programs have been announced as granting six months, but neither of them have explicitly said that there won't be options to renew for another six months.
I expect they haven't decided that themselves yet and don't want to commit publicly until they've seen how well the program goes.
Even if you’re right, no one should be making a decision of enrolling into those programs because maybe, with zero indication they’ll be renewed again in six months.
You know what they could also do? Stop the programs for new enrolments next month. Or if if they renew them like you said, it could be with new conditions which exclude people currently on them.
There are too many unknowns, and giving these companies the benefit of the doubt that they’ll give more instead of taking more goes counter to everything they showed so far.
No, my argument is that your “but neither of them have explicitly said that there won't be options to renew for another six months” point is not something anyone should realistically be counting on, and is not a valid counter argument to your parent post of “Isn't the Claude one only for a few months?”.
We should be discussing what is factual now, not be making up scenarios which could maybe happen but have zero indication that they will.
I didn't say that I thought they would likely extend it, but I stand by my statement that it's a possibility.
Neither company have expressed that the six month thing is a hard limit.
The fact that OpenAI shipped their version within two weeks of Anthropic's announcement suggests to me that they're competing with each other for credibility with the open source community.
(Obviously if you make decisions based on the assumption that the program will be expanded later you're not acting rationally.)
If I understand correctly, they are literally giving things away for free for a 6 months period and we are complaining that they don't promise it stays free forever?
No, you did not understand correctly. They are not “literally giving things away for free”, they are providing a very conditional free trial, which is a business decision and not anything new. Then a commenter speculated they might extend that program because they didn’t say they won’t and I pointed out it doesn’t make sense to assume they will. No one on this immediate thread made any complaint, we’re discussing the facts of the offering.
