it has an "Impressum" link that's broken. Parent(?) company is says this about themself:
> World Data Lab (WDL) is a data enterprise which produces the most consistent and credible estimates for spending and demography. Our data models are global, granular, and forward looking and track the Sustainable Development Goals in real time, helping provide unique insights for businesses. Our research has appeared on CNN, in the Economist, and the Financial Times. Our clients include HSBC, L'Oreal, and Citibank. Our advisory board includes leading representatives of the World Bank, Brookings Institution, and academia.
I don't see any ads anyways so I should be good :D And Facebook probably still has my date of birth from my now long deleted account, so I guess no real damage was done, yeehaa.
None of those things are considered Personally Identifiable Information unless associated with a name or something similar, at least according to all the PII training I had when working for the government.
As said by another poster, this data can be used with other information to identify you and potentially breach your security.
There's a nice, and a little bit terrifying, podcast that goes in detail on techniques used to obtain and hack people that are worth hacking. (https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/112/) This episode specifically.
Personally identifiable information (PII) doesn't necessarily have a meaning in isolation but can identify the personal identity when combined somehow. So any website that operates on PII needs to have some sort of privacy policy no matter what it does to PII.
In Tokyo Japan, with a very high COL, our family unit makes just shy of 100,000 USD. By our living standards we are lower middle-class. We don't own house, car, assets. We can't afford a pet yet (cat maybe, but I am allergic) and no major vacations except day trips.
Yet this site says I am in the top 1%. Makes me hard to believe such stats sadly.
If you asked people around the world where they would like to live, Tokyo, Japan would be near the top of the list. That's what you are paying for. If you made a choice to live in Detroit, USA you'd have more money for cars, etc.
Choosing to live in a very expensive place doesn't alter how wealthy you are, only how you spend that wealth.
I think this is partly true and partly not. If we view living in a HCOL area as a benefit, then it should offset other compensation. People should be willing to live in these super-desirable areas at lower salaries than they would get elsewhere. This dynamic definitely exists: rural healthcare facilities have to pay quite a lot to attract doctors who would prefer the big city. But we also see the opposite. The compensation packages necessary to entice e.g. tech workers from the Midwest to the worst coastal markets are like 300% higher. This suggests people are not exactly seeing a huge subjective/experiential benefit to living in those markets and it is more like a localized form of inflation.
Well yes, $100k a year is going to put you in the top 80 million earners.
It doesn't take into account the cost of living, especially the cost of land, that said living in Tokyo you'll have a far higher standard of living than someone living in rural China even setting aside cost of housing.
I think that the website tells you to provide yearly income in yens, but it treats the number as if it was USD. I got the info that I'm in top 1.2% when I input my salary in PLN.
income rich but asset poor, yes, i am in the same situation here in germany.
either you inherit or you made some very smart (lucky) investments or you stay "poor".
and then there is the purchasing power and the size of the middle class in an economy.
i could live in china and be there the top 20%, but would be able to afford massages on a daily basis. i am here in germany the top 10% (nominally top 1% in china) and yet, i need to think if i can spend 500 euro per month on massages (once a week).
The only way to amass wealth is by investing a significant amount for a significant time. For example, when I worked in Vienna, I saved half of my income for 2 years.
Then, with that money I took a 3-year break in Romania just like that. Not the wisest investment, but I could have lived 4 years off that money.
In any case, saving is difficult with so much inflation, don't hold cash but something giving you a return. (Don't fall for bank products with 1-2% fees; they are no better than a 0.2%-fee index fund).
A basic book on personal finance that I recommend is The Richest Man in Babylon.
People are blown away because they think “How can anyone live on $3000 per year?”
There’s a whole market of cheap consumer goods produced for that income level. Household goods, electronics, clothing, etc.
As an example, if you are reading this your kitchen is probably stocked with ceramic plates. Why did you buy ceramic plates rather than plastic plates? Probably because at your income level, ceramic plates are an insignificant expense. However at $3000/year having a kitchen full of ceramic plates would be an extreme waste of money for insignificant benefit.
Multiply this by every purchasing decision. Why did you buy a $1000 phone instead of a $150 phone? Why do pay for eggs instead of keeping chickens? Why do you buy branded clothes instead of unbranded clothes that cost a fraction of the price?
I’m not saying that you should go out and buy plastic plates and a chicken. Just that not everybody on $3000 a year is living in poverty.
The biggest issue with earning that much is healthcare, which doesn’t scale well with income. Even if the doctor may be earning 5x less than they would in a rich country, the MRI machine certainly doesn’t cost 5x less.
Not to mention used goods. There are whole categories where I/we are used to spending money that poorer people will round to zero.
Take mattresses: My parents just bought a $700 mattress. My own mattress is a $200 IKEA model. Meanwhile a guy who does odd jobs for me sleeps on a hand-me-down I got him for free. We're all equally comfortable at night I'm guessing.
Another example: I tried to get rid of an old armoire from the 50s some time ago. Had to throw it in the garbage, couldn't give it away for free. I tried.
I'd much rather be wealthy than not, but you can definitely make a no-frills budget work if you get rid of the niceties as long as you have your health.
I wish instead of just counting tax it would e.g. add rent, too. Living in a big city your salary can look much more impressive than if you look at disposable income.
If you do it that way very wealthy people can appear to have average income.
"Yeah I make 2 million a year, but my mortgage is 25 thousand and my Aston Martin costs 4 grand!"
Truth is places are expensive beacuse they are desirable. Living in a tin shack in Africa without indoor plumbing isn't comparable to living in a posh flat in central London. We like to pretend that it is and call it cost of living, but it's really the standard of living that is different
With globalization this is even more true, with the rise of remote work doubly so.
Places are expensive because many people want to live there, not because the standard of living is higher. Income already accounts for most of the benefits.
After going through several of these comments, and looking up some wealth statistics/wiki etc., I feel the overlooked/relevant metric is "Where do you stand within the 1%?" (or 10% if you choose a more generous economic bracket).
Looking at my own info (previous comment in thread), and therafter going through public data, I believe most of us in HN are already in that bracket due to disproportionate poverty seen in S Asia, Africa, S America & LATAM. That 1% number is presenting itself as a feel-good-number. We share the same bracket as Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos & Elon Musk - which does not make much sense, because they are 6-orders richer than us.
Wealth isn't seen in any linear/quasi-linear scale. The last few percentages are incredibly dense. Maybe the lifestyle near poverty line to moderate wealthy is easier to model from economics PoV, but beyond some thresholds, is hard to rationalize.
>The 1% number is presenting itself as a feel-good-number. We share the same bracket as Jeff Bezos & Elon Musk.
I don't think that's the point at all. The point is to show perspective that many people lack on how their income lines up with the majority of the world. I don't need a application to tell me that I make less than Jeff Bezos or where he ranks in terms of global income.
And makes perfect sense that we share the top 1% with the hyper rich because... We do!
USA 2 adults, 2 kids and $160k/year (post tax) puts you in the top 1%.
USA 2 adults, 2 kids and $10 billion/year (post tax) also puts you in the top 1%.
To me, 160k vs 10 billion should show some difference. Do they do this to make as many people as possible have "one percenter" guilt? ( $130k returns 1.7% so there's at least one decimal point available )
I think this is essentially what I meant - having the experience, confidence, wisdom etc that comes with age, but feeling (physically) younger than one's years.
I get the idea that 'feeling' young depends a lot on attitude but as a 60-year old (who tries to remain active) I understand that I no longer have the eyesight, hearing, coordination, balance and resilience of 20 year-old me. When I was younger lots of little health niggles, aches and pains would quickly go away, now they persist and have to be tolerated and exercised around. I think that 'feeling young' (which you rightly emphasize) is more about realistically accepting limitations and carrying on rather than self-deception that you aren't old.
[Edit] Another example of 'oldness'. I've been using keyboards and other UI devices for more than 40 years. My typing is pretty fast now, but gradual deterioration in memory and hand-eye coordination mean that I cannot navigate a mouse-based menu system as fast as I could once. This effect is significant for aging gamers in situations where actions-per-minute are important.
Bloody hell. It makes one request per country for the graph and it's struggling under the load. Definitely should be Cloudflaring that stuff. It's just a `GET` and it isn't going to change that much for the same params.
Yeah, kinda doubt it. Remember the number and then press refresh. You'll see it's just a pretty animation, not a live one. Also I am sure at least a few tens of million kids are not officially declared, especially in China, so I would say we are over 8 billions already.
Cool idea... not the best architecture. Tell me you don't know how to optimize webapps without telling me you don't know how to optimize webapps. Anyway just poking fun, hope the owner can figure out how to make things work.
There are a lot of other factors that make dramatic differences too. For instance, here in Norway:
"Higher education - longer life expectancy
There are large social inequalities in mortality in Norway, where people with higher income, education and a job generally have the lowest mortality. It has been highlighted as a paradox that these differences are just as high in the Nordic countries as elsewhere in Europe, despite well-developed welfare systems with the same rights for all (Dahl, 2014).
Men with higher education have 6.4 years longer life expectancy than men with primary education. For women, the difference is 5 years. See figure 5.
If someone is married, has a higher education and has a spouse with a similar education level, life expectancy is 8-9 years higher than for unmarried people with primary education (Kravdal 2017)."
There's your key. It's not "a job", the job matters a lot. Higher income and education most often means a job that's easier on the body, and also likely more mentally stimulating (shown to increase QoL at old age and lifespan).
Maybe it will be good to have also regions other than countries, the website claims I will die at 89 years old and that data seems wrong for 3 reasons:
1. 3 out of 4 of my grandparents are still alive and are all over 90 years old
2. Living over 90y is quite common in my area, my neighbour is something like 105y and she still goes to cut wood on her own
3. Life expectancy tends to go up so I'm expected to live longer than my parents and grandparents
>3. Life expectancy tends to go up so I'm expected to live longer than my parents and grandparents
I wouldn't be surprised to see that reverse in the coming years. The modern western diet isn't very healthy compared to what your grandparents grew up on.
I believe my diet is not too different from the one of my grandparents, at least compared to their diet in the last 20 years ( I can't remember before I was 10, and I don't know what they eat before I was born ). The "modern diet" hasn't really catchup here yet
You mean those grandparents who had childhood filled with debilitating diseases without vaccines and who were using asbestos in their young adult life? Pretty sure @maury91 going to live over 90 as he/she expects it. Genetics is still king in life expectancy.
Heard on the Lifespan podcast that recent studies of twins suggest genetics determine about 20% of your longevity, the rest is all environment / diet / lifestyle / stress etc.
I hope that's not been disproven by newer studies that I haven't heard about? Almost all of my grandparents and parents have already died at (much) younger than average age, and I am really hoping the science about this is right otherwise its not looking good for me.
My hometown I believe ticks all 4 of the things you mentioned. So I agree with you that genetics is a minor part of the equation
This is a personal anecdote of mine:
I lived in 3 nations: Sardinia ( hometown ), London and Vilnius. I do a lot of running and I love collecting data, something I noticed is that every time I go back to my hometown my VO2 max starts skyrocketing, after training as little as 3 weeks in my hometown it goes up by more than 10 points, when I go back it starts declining slowly until it goes back to slightly above the value when I left.
I do believe there must be something special about the environment, I do continue working from home when I'm in my hometown to stay longer, so it is not an holiday effect, my diet actually goes worst when I go back home because I go a lot to restaurants that I missed. And even with worst diet my fitness improves fast ( I run faster with same HR ( even for a while when I'm back ), VO2 and race predictor improves drastically), my stress goes down and my sleep score almost maxes out ( 98/100 )
Same reason why everyone leaves ( and at some point comes back ), career.
I did leave the first time ( for London ) for work, came back 3 years later but had to leave again because my wife had trouble find a job in Sardinia ( she doesn't speak Italian ), maybe we will go back to Sardinia in the future when both our careers will be fully remote
As I suspected. I know you say you’ve worked remotely from Sardinia, but have you thought that maybe your career is also a major factor along with environmental differences (which is definitely an issue with London due to air quality / weather alone)? Working remotely is often very different health wise than doing the same job in an office based on my anecdata experience (both working from home, but near-ish to my employer, for over a year, as well as spending a year on the road working remotely from an camper/RV).
The good thing is that I don't work in London from many years, now I'm working in Lithuania, air quality is way better than in London. From when covid hit being in the office has become the exception more than the norm ( we need to compile a form to being able to go the office ) so on the working remotely not much did change
And a long list of new technologies thay we have no idea the long term effects of.
I once confessed to a friend that I did not like my apartment being encircled with equidistant 5G towers due to possible standing waves, and he (probably rightfully) scoffed at me
We may not know the long term effects of many new things but our standards for health and safety testing along with increased ability to detect and treat many health problems early definitively give us a big leg up over past generations.
We don't know the long term effects of any invention, but...
At least we <<think>> of them and <<plan>> for them now.
Some stuff we can analyze based on similar materials, technologies, and we can extrapolate. We can even design tests to age them and see what happens.
There's a reason everything is more complex these days, because we're starting to add a magic word to everything: <<sustainability>> (i.e.: does it kill us directly or or does it kill the environment around us, ergo killing us indirectly?).
Ignoring this aspect would mean that we assume humans never learn, which is provably false.
5G spectrum is various bands from 700MHz -> 95GHz [1]. So the corresponding wavelengths range from 45cm down to 3mm - if constructive interference is a concern than rather than worry about the siting of your apartment it's the positioning of your sofa and how deeply you breathe that matters.
> 1. 3 out of 4 of my grandparents are still alive and are all over 90 years old
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> 2. Living over 90y is quite common in my area, my neighbour is something like 105y and she still goes to cut wood on her own
Just because a few people live longer doesn't necessarily invalidate the statistics. Even if your genetics and living environment allow for a healthy lifestyle, there's still a chance that you're killed by an accident or crime in the next half century. So 89 years seems like a good estimate, even if your environment theoretically allows you to live longer.
Also, technically, your life expectancy will rise the longer you life :-)
Being murdered in my province requires some effort, last homicide in my city was ~40 years ago. That murder was so unexpected that it had repercussions that are still in place today
A more-important metric is "How Rich Am I?" - which will blow your mind. The world income distribution is exceptionally unequal and this chart will make it very clear (plus a call to action).
Would be interesting to see a picture of your place relative to all humans ever. I was shocked when I learned that approximately 7% of all humans ever are alive right now.
I have to apologise to the parent commenter, I laughed inappropriately hard at that.
Still, quite confronting to see how much time you have left statistically. For me it got me to change careers. I figured if I still had 30 work left before retirement, I might as well.
takes about 2 minutes and only half the content loads in. this doesn't need to be built with javascript.
would be better to make a single db request and refresh the page with my results instead of staring at a spinner while a million ajax requests flounder in the background.
Are you arguing a website can collect as much data as they want without respecting GDPR so long there’s no way to directly attribute the data to who provided it?
Yes absolutely, data has to be tied to an identifiable subject to be covered by GDPR. Are you arguing a website should make data identifiable when it otherwise doesn't have to be, just to support subject access or deletion requests? That's clearly contrary to the spirit of the law.
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair."
Meh, it only does global population which isn't meaningful. Most of the world has much lower rent because there isn't a constant flow of immigrants competing for a small number of very expensive, carefully zoned single family houses who's prices are propped up with cheap credit.
