They’re not even asking for their love to be returned though. They’re just disappointed that Apple is releasing poorly tested products. And that’s troublesome because bad quality directly affects Apple's sales and reputation, so it should be in their best interest to fix it.
This thread is literally Apple's history the last 20 years or so. People love Apple and, but for a few hardcore types, they will put up with a lot of crap and keep Apple. Apple has done a great job marketing itself. Its products have always been slick looking. And that's the point: people will put up with a lot to associate themselves with the brand.
I haven’t put up with much of anything... I like Apple because it’s more usable than android. That’s all. The truth is hat everyone here has a grudge against Apple and so any time they get something wrong or there’s a bug (even something as irrelevant as the OP) they lose their mind like “haha what now Apple users.” It’s sick really. Apple is still good.
It’s a really hard bug to run into - you have to get the bad Unicode I-that-isn’t-an-I in your autocorrect dictionary somehow (for example by having someone else text it to you multiple times), then this character shows up as an autocorrect suggestion. If you’re in messages, it still shows the fake I as an emoji, so you dont see the problem sometimes.
I think overall this release might lead some to believe that Apple is spending less time on QA. For instance, bugs that are much easier to run into, like the calculator bug[0] still somehow made it into production
They're easy to demonstrate. I'm not sure I'd qualify them as easy to run into. Generally when using the calculator (if I do use it all!) I'm not focusing on typing very fast.
> for example by having someone else text it to you multiple times
This one is super widespread. I don't believe I had anybody text it to me before it showed up for me. Over-the-air model update perhaps? Could have been a virus-spreading situation but it seems like something else.
11 is so trash. Slowed me down immediately. Typing in iMessage is awful and lags like none other. I started to uninstall apps to see what I thought was an increase in speed, but I don't actually believe it. It's the very definition of planned obsolescence.
I thought that too at first, but slowness isn’t even half the problem:
1+2+3=24 if typed quickly into the calculator, even on the fastest hardware
They got rid of autoplay next episodes in podcasts, and make it take three taps to play next episode. That moron swerving during your commute Monday? That’d be one of millions of people trying to advance to the next episode.
They also eliminated “mark as [un]played” in podcasts.
Alerts show on the lock screen, but are missing from the alert list.
The keyboard in messaging is completely different than the keyboard in third party apps (and it doesn’t have feature parity with itself across third party apps either.
If I enable speech in maps, using my car bluetooth, it pauses audio and plays silence during the voice prompts. After bluetooth drops when I leave the car, it happily speaks directions into my pocket instead of realizing I arrived.
The battery meter and lifetime were FUBARed for a week after I upgraded.
Calendars randomly opens to a useless year overview screen, even though I only ever use the “today” screen.
(and so on...)
All of these issues are regressions introduced between 10 and 11, and I’m sure I’ll notice more issues over time.
(Also, performance is terrible on my old phone. Web pages and apps swap out constantly, which I never noticed before. It takes Siri so long to turn on the microphone that it’s better to open the app I want, and type the query. Maps take 15 seconds to open. Time to first picture is unacceptable, and I swear the quality of the pictures is lower too).
> They got rid of autoplay next episodes in podcasts, and make it take three taps to play next episode. That moron swerving during your commute Monday? That’d be one of millions of people trying to advance to the next episode.
Seriously, why did they think this was a good idea??
> They also eliminated “mark as [un]played” in podcasts.
It seems most of the issues you are running into is not a bad OS, but bad applications. Granted they are baked in, but appart from Camera, Calculator and Safari I think there’s little to no downside moving to a third party app.
Why bother with the stock apps at this point ? They have had 2 to 3 times better alternatives for years and years now, some even free with basically no barrier to switch.
I feel like beating on Apple apps is a bit like crying about Microsoft making IE shittier or Google making another chat app. Why not move on ?
Not parent, but thats half the reason I buy Apple products. Because the product works well out of the box - the apps are well designed, they can sometimes do things 3rd party apps can't, and they all integrate with each other & apple ecosystem.
There may be workarounds for every single issue, and as a techie I could do them, but I pay specifically not to have to spend time & energy on any of that.
I could swap out the keyboard, podcasts, calendar, maps, camera, etc, etc, but that’s 90% of what I use my phone for, and I do have know of viable alternatives for any of them in the app store.
There’s not really anywhere to “move on” to, since Android is still [edit: also] a tire fire, and I don’t trust google (or anything ad supported) with my data.
The small players like Win Phone have thrown in the towel, or have unproven track records (to put it politely).
edit: Also, if I move to third party everything (even Siri is useless now), then it will break the cross-integration that I’ve gotten used to, like finding calendar invites in emails, or having the lock screen tell me the right route home and eta during rush hour.
Not ideal, but after listening to an episode of Back to Work, I tried the Reset All Settings trick and for the past 4 days since it's been wonderful.
Fast with good battery life and minimal things to re-install / setup. Mainly just TouchID, Wifi networks, and Apple Pay.
This isn't Windows Phone that regular users are okay with being abused and know how to install the beta[0]. It's also kinda ridiculous that anyone is suggesting running something that Apple clearly doesn't think is ready for prime time to fix bugs.
I'm not suggesting that you install the beta. I'm just letting you know that this has been fixed by Apple and will be pushed out sometime in the near future.
I use an Android phone and a MacBook. I assumed it was just OS X that they were fucking up, to concentrate on iOS. Interesting to know it's across the board.
Maybe so, I haven't tried that one yet. My problem is that the UI has gotten increasingly fucked up with each of the previous "tick" releases while adding absolutely nothing I'm interested in.
Snow Leopard was a superior OS in every way, from my perspective. The only reason I upgraded was the increasing number of apps that required newer versions for no good reason.
Oh, good to know - I guess these were mostly developed in parallel then. The 11.1 release notes specifically mentioned the 10 so I assume they were paired like each previous year’s hw+sw release.
It was released when the schedule said it was to be released, rather than when it was ready to be released, and things got crammed in half-baked to make the deadline. (Android has the same problem.)
Well, and they ran off their remaining expert tear inducer, Scott Forstall. Nothing since has improved iCloud as much as Steve publicly humiliating and firing the .Mac Team.
