I think that is depressing. I'm not saying don't go for a bike ride, but why not seek glory in something you spend 1/3 (+) of your life doing?

Why not seek glory in what you want to seek glory in and stop judging others based on what they want to seek glory in?

Jeeze... To call what I said a judgement is a bit over the top. It is an opinion, not a criticism, as there is nothing personal in my statement. Don't be too precious.

Fair maybe "judge" was too harsh a word, but you reply like this and you're calling me precious?

Fair, but who said I spent 1/3 of my life doing it?

True. My point was that people spend a considerable amount of energy/time going to work, so might as well "apply" oneself. Not sure if that's what you mean by glory. But the two are usually linked.

That's cool,I've never been a contractor. Just always seem to end up cleaning up after old messes.

Maybe you meant 2 miles up?

Yea