Could someone explain me how more blacks make the product or company better. Why this isn't also directed to other races/minorites (Asians maybe)?
We really should stop treating minorites like some special snowflake with this racism and sexism towards whites and men
Diverse teams bring different perspectives for solving problems. By problems I don't mean just technical ones, but also design, usability, and marketing.
When you get a lot of similar people in the same room they are likely to approach a problem in the same way. A diverse group might take longer to communicate because they lack as many shared experiences but for the same reason, they can often reach a better solution.
From a literature review:
"Results suggest that cultural diversity leads to process losses through task conflict and decreased social integration, but to process gains through increased creativity and satisfaction. "[1]
> Diverse teams bring different perspectives for solving problems. By problems I don't mean just technical ones, but also design, usability, and marketing. <
Honest question here regarding quoting of statistics.
If statistics showed that homogenous teams led to better solving of problems, does that mean the teams should discourage diversity?
If not, then clearly the reason why diversity is encouraged is not because it brings better results, rather that it is considered as a more 'just' position.
It's like when people say "Studies show that gay parents are better parents than straight parents" as a reason to support gay marriage. The idea is simple, even if it didn't, that wouldn't be a reason against gay marriage.
That is a very good point. It's easy to cite studies to support one's position. I could easily find studies which show that diversity actually decreases the mean IQ of the population.
Now, evaluating these studies, we might then rightfully say, that IQ evaluation is erroneous and discourages minorities, and that social status has a huge impact on the IQ.
However, when diversity leads to a lower social status and poverty, doesn't this defeat the purpose of arguing for more diversity?
Just to give you an insight into my thought process on this.
Another point is: Did the lack of diversity really hinder the creative minds of the last millenia?
> Did the lack of diversity really hinder the creative minds of the last millenia? <
This is exactly the reason why I think this is probably a cause and effect confusion.
Better teams might attract a diverse crowd. Just like a better product can claim a more diverse group of users.
In fact it isn't even just about 'better products', it might just be the most popular product (without any specific reason behind it). For instance, you will find Windows users to be more diverse than Linux users, mostly because former is a lot bigger userbase than latter, and Linux usage requires users to be of a certain technical aptitude (hopefully 2016 will be the year Linux Mint becomes the majority OS) which is mostly shared by the majority demographic (i.e. White males).
The minority also overrepresents other areas. For instance, some brands of hair products are more popular on Asian males, than among non-asian males (possibly because it suits their hair type better). Where as fairness creams are more popular among Indian men and women, not because of some sort of physiological differences but because of cultural preferences.
The fundamental idea is that not all areas of life will reflect the population distribution of the demographics. When I went to a fountain pen show, most people were white. There is no pipeline failure there, there is no widespread discrimination going on against non-whites.
Asians aren't really a minority in the tech industry. Hispanics, african americans, women and other demographic groups are still underrepresented relative to the general population.
>underrepresented
The tech sector (or the industry/science/etc. sectors) aren't the senate or whatever that they need to "represent" anyone. They should hire based on skill/merit and try to produce the best product that they can. Please stop pushing these crazy leftist agendas everywhere
>Please stop pushing these crazy leftist agendas everywhere
This is simple math. Personally, after reading this bit of your post, I am starting to believe your posts deserve to be downvoted. I do pity you though.
Whites are a minority race when you take the world thus we should reduce the number of non-whites to combat this underrepresentation inside the human species.
This is simple math. I also pity you for living in some delusion of botched equality
Asians make up 5.5% of the population of the US, this includes all Asians. I don't have figures for their representation in the tech industry at large but some quick googling shows they make up some 39% of Silicon Valley workers.
African Americans make up 13% and Latinos 17%, which means for every one Asian worker in tech, we should expect around two to three African American and Latino workers.
I don't think there should be quotas but the tech industry demographics do not come anywhere close to tracking with our country's demographics.
Whites and men already enjoy a privileged status in the USA in most areas of society and efforts like these are an attempt to even it out. Whether or not this example is the correct method, that is the motivation. Additionally, there are plenty of efforts using this principle to include men in traditionally female dominated fields like nursing and teaching.
I'm with you brother. It's a hard fact to accept that the majority of the tech-world is leftist.
And for those who think I'm wrong: Imagine company X sent 4 white blond-haired blue-eyed women on the stage with a "message" of this kind. Double-standards anybody?
Also, somebody has to explain to me how exactly the products of a company magically become better when more minorities worked on it. When I engage in work with people, I don't care what their skin color is or if they are male or female.
People embracing this culture of unfairness (because it's unfair to favor minorities over better-qualified non-minority applicants) should rethink what they are doing and who they are cheering at.
I strongly disagree with your contention that the majority of the tech-world is left-leaning in their politics. I have met many libertarians and conservative tech-workers in my almost eighteen years working in development.
I bet it's part of where we had our experiences. In Germany, it's almost exclusively leftist. It doesn't get in my way, because I care about the technology and don't think politics have a place there, but many people do strongly put both in one bin (if you allow me, I noticed that these are mostly people who do not really shine with their code contributions and want to "contribute" in other ways instead of improving their skills).
Moving from Madison, Wisconsin, to here was a bit of a shock. There are nerds around here whose geeky obsession is church. When I vote, many of the offices are simply uncontested, with just the (R) candidate appearing on the ballot. And even the Democratic candidates--when they even appear--may be more conservative than Republicans from more liberal regions.
Of course, as a libertarian myself, I don't feel much more disenfranchised now than I felt when I was surrounded by hippy-dippy liberals.
"That's the connection between technology and liberalism. Without exception the high-tech cities in the US are also the most liberal. But it's not because liberals are smarter that this is so. It's because liberal cities tolerate odd ideas, and smart people by definition have odd ideas."
It's the american notion that in politics there can only be liberals and conservatives.
In my opinion, it's a more liberal notion to actually choose people based on their skills and knowledge rather than skin color or in the interest of "diversity", even if it only yields in a 100% white or 100% negroe or 100% asian team.
I could even understand the notion of those who propose "diversity" if they wouldn't shut up when a team is devoid of white people. I won't recite the extremist clause that "Anti-Racism" means "Anti-white", however, judging from what I've heard in my years of experience as a software developer and entrepreneur, we're getting closer and closer to that if we keep on shutting those people up who question this.
