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If AI generated CSAM is poisoned by actual CSAM in the process, wouldn't that extend to AI generated art being poisoned by copyrighted work in the process?


It's poisoned by the fact that it requires access to CSAM, which makes the operation illegal, even if the output might not be illegal.


Logically, but not necessarily legally.


Scatter-skimming your post drew my eyes to an alarming collection of phrases:

  misleading human safety dose escalation oncolytic virus in humans T-VEC inoperable engineering the virus to infect immune-mediated killing allows for targeted tumor activity cell death graphical poor prognosis anti-PD-1 pembrolizumab cancer.
Like I stumbled across a Resident Evil script. Happily the post is coherent when perused.


No, it's news media's sensationalization of exceedingly rare yet awful events (for profit! More at 11). Consuming that poison turns neighbors into strangers and strangers into criminals.

How else would disconnected suburban communities be getting the same message that their kids are in danger from something as specific as trench-coated deviants or razor blade apples?

We know it started before social media but as it often does, social media has amplified the problem. I'm not sure how much blame Hollywood shares in spreading this fear.


You get a creepy feeling when a person might be a threat but you aren't sure yet. Often triggered by noticing something incongruent about the person's demeanor, appearance, or location, which suggests that they may be concealing their intent from you, for possibly malicious ends.

It's a valuable survival behavior but like most pre-crime strategies is easily confused by racism, neuro-discrimination, or other (un)conscious bigotry.


I don't put too much weight in "creepy feelings" unless they can be described with a specific reason about what's causing it.

It sounds like a thin cover for busybody neighborhood watch-type behavior. Or worse.


I can't tell who's worse in this story. Shame all around.

More on topic, you'd expect false reports of threats to children to be evenly distributed across the population. If so, that's a mass media issue. If the reports come repeatedly from just a few people, it's those people whose behavior needs correction.


>I can't tell who's worse in this story. Shame all around.

I'm probably the worst. Definite shame on me.


I disagree; you were dealing with a difficult personality, as a young child. Ridiculous to shame you over that.


I'm sorry that happened to you, as just a kid. As the saying goes, "it's not your fault." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQht2yOX9Js&t=111s


I hear you but quoting the most famous book about pedophilia is not the best look.


The point of the book is not "pedophilia is good." Quite the opposite.


Humbert Humbert is the villain of Lolita -- he's depicted as pathetic and deeply mentally unwell


A chicken may relish breakfast jokes that a pig would find distasteful.


It's like claiming that something from 0 to 100 should be treated as 100. Maybe, but maybe it's more correct to treat it as 0, or as 50. But in this case it's a way to to shut down discussion.


Tell me where the damage is. Show who has been hurt by seeing a penis, how they were hurt, and how that impacted them.

This is puritanical shit. Seeing a penis will not hurt you.


> Seeing a penis will not hurt you.

Thank you for making me laugh the hardest i have all week.


I've toured a bunch of apartment buildings in a major city and the nicer ones often had people using the communal study areas, game rooms, lounges, fitness centers, and roof decks.

Obviously there's a cost to provide that and it's one many are willing to pay.


I've visited many expensive buildings in SF and lived in several. Those buildings do have study areas and lounges. But those places are never cozy and never designed to help people interact. They are often in a separate area or floor, away from the main entrance. The lounge areas are separated for multiple groups to use without interfering with each other. Furniture is heavy, expensive, and hideous. Tables are heavy or unmovable. There are no coffee tables. Music blares.

Architecture & design that fosters community will have a space for eating and socializing near the main entrance. When you enter or or exit the building, you can see who is there and walk over to say hello. The space will be cozy, clean, with warm lighting, good ventilation, movable chairs & tables, and no music or TV. There will be a sink with hand soap & paper towels, a microwave oven, and a hot water kettle. And a clean toilet around the corner.

I would be willing to pay for that, but so far no company has had the imagination to offer it. There's a similar lack of hot-desk co-working spaces that are suitable for coding. I would love to pay for that, too, but it doesn't exist. I've spoken with many co-working space managers and none have shown interest in making it happen.


Supporting your point, in many hotels the bar/restaurant area is visible from the lobby, which naturally invites people it to have a drink or a bite to eat. But its rare to find this architecture in apartment buildings.

This is why I loved an old Victorian-era house I once lived in, which had been converted into four apartment units. We all shared the large, deep wraparound front porch, and thus we'd occasionally gather for drinks. And neighbors would drop by, too. I miss that place.


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